[Matt]

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WASHINGTON - Sen. Max Baucus on Wednesday brought out the much-awaited Finance Committee version of an American health-system remake — a landmark $856 billion, 10-year measure that starts a rough ride through Congress without visible Republican backing.

The bill by Baucus, chairman of the Finance Committee, would make major changes to the nation's $2.5 trillion health care system, including requiring all individuals to purchase health care or pay a fine, and language prohibiting insurance company practices like charging more to people with more serious health problems.

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The bill fails to fulfill President Barack Obama's aim of creating a new government-run insurance plan — or option — to compete with the private market. It proposes instead a system of nonprofit member owned cooperatives, somewhat akin to electric co-ops that exist in many places around the country. That was one of many concessions meant to win over Republicans.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32872749/ns/po...th_care_reform/

Read The Full Bill Here

Read The Outline Here

[bozodog]

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It's not every day that you hear a Democratic senator charge that a fellow Democrat is proposing to raise taxes on the middle class, but that is what happened on Tuesday when Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., ripped into the health-care bill developed by Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mt., the chairman of the Senate Finance Committee. “there is no way in its present form that I vote for it unless it changes in the amendment process by vast amounts.

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Senate Democrats are going to have to move forward on healthcare without a single Republican supporter after Sen. Olympia Snowe said Tuesday she could not back the Finance Committee’s bill.; Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.) failed to win any Republican backer

[jcl]

bozodog, on Sep 17 2009, 04:47 AM, said:

Senate Democrats are going to have to move forward on healthcare without a single Republican supporter after Sen. Olympia Snowe said Tuesday she could not back the Finance Committee’s bill.; Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.) failed to win any Republican backer

Interesting tidbit a little further down:

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Democrats control 59 seats in the Senate. Without a single Republican vote, they would be forced to advance healthcare using a budgetary maneuver that requires only a simple majority.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said Tuesday that Democrats are prepared to use budget reconciliation as a last resort.

I wasn't aware of the budget reconciliation rules. The House rules are uninteresting but the Senate rules...

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In the Senate, total debate on a reconciliation bill is limited to 20 hours [...] Motions and amendments may be offered and considered without debate at the end of this time period. [...] Furthermore, the Budget Act prevents reconciliation legislation from being filibustered on the Senate floor.

[Flatiron]

The Truth About the Health Care Bills - Connelly
http://michaelconnelly.viviti.com/entries/...alth-care-bills

[TheTerrorist_75]

Flatiron, on Sep 17 2009, 08:22 PM, said:

The Truth About the Health Care Bills - Connelly
http://michaelconnelly.viviti.com/entries/...alth-care-bills

He claims to be a legal expert, "I studied it with particular emphasis from my area of expertise, constitutional law". Micael went to college to become a property manger. He was a crime reporter before becoming a fiction novelist.

Michael Connelly

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Michael Connelly (born July 21, 1956, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania) is an American author of detective novels, notably those featuring LAPD Detective Hieronymus "Harry" Bosch.

Connelly was the President of the Mystery Writers of America from 2003 to 2004. His books have been translated in 35 languages and he has won every major mystery honor.

[JDoors]

So your the entirety of your response is: Denigrate the source?

[jcl]

Flatiron, on Sep 17 2009, 05:22 PM, said:

The Truth About the Health Care Bills - Connelly
http://michaelconnelly.viviti.com/entries/...alth-care-bills

The Affordable Health Care Choices Act of 2009 discussed by Connelly is one of the previous generation of health care bills. The Baucus bill is the America's Healthy Future Act of 2009.

Also, Connelly appears to be a twit. Third Amendment right to privacy. Heh.

[TheTerrorist_75]

JDoors, on Sep 19 2009, 10:00 AM, said:

So your the entirety of your response is: Denigrate the source?

Yes, especially when the source claims to know more then they actually do.

[sultan_emerr]

jcl, on Sep 19 2009, 04:34 PM, said:

Flatiron, on Sep 17 2009, 05:22 PM, said:

The Truth About the Health Care Bills - Connelly
http://michaelconnelly.viviti.com/entries/...alth-care-bills

The Baucus bill is the America's Healthy Future Act of 2009.

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Will this include free Penicillin shots?

This post has been edited by sultan_emerr: 22 September 2009 - 04:07 AM