[hitest]

jcl, on Oct 27 2004, 05:14 AM, said:

hitest, on Oct 26 2004, 12:30 PM, said:

I've had pretty good luck downloading from the mirrors at mandrake.com, the university ftp site in germany was fast and stable when I downloaded 10.0.

The problem's on my end. My ISP routes everything through an opaque proxy server. Anything that tries to connect that what appears to be my IP address hits the proxy instead, and anything that tries to connect to my actual IP address is apparently dropped. As a result, neither active FTP nor BitTorrent work.

As for passive FTP, it's hit-or-miss for reasons I don't understand. It worked on the Fedora mirror I'm using, but not on any of the Mandrake mirrors I've tried.

That leaves me with HTTP for reliable transfers. Normally I prefer HTTP anyway, since it supports transparent compression and by many accounts is now faster than FTP. The compression would have been especially nice last night, since Fedora inexplicable distributes raw ISO images. It's apparently increadibly difficult to bzip them first and save people some bandwidth

Update

Good news: found a reasonably fast HTTP mirror of Mandrake. Bad news: Fedora blows garbage all over the screen when I boot it in qemu. More bad news: NetBSD blows up when I boot it in qemu. Ah well, if this doesn't work there's always bochs.

That's too bad that gemu isn't working properly.
That's an interesting set-up your ISP has with the proxy configuration. I wonder if they're doing that because they're incredibly paranoid about security or hackers? Can you upload to your own ftp site when building web pages? Sounds like you've got a good http connection for downloads.
My ISP is pretty well wide open for ftp transfers, downloads.......................hmmmmm......kind of makes me glad I'm behind my little D-Link router/firewall.

[jcl]

hitest, on Oct 27 2004, 09:12 PM, said:

That's too bad that gemu isn't working properly.

I think it's just Anaconda. Fedora's pretty bootscreen works (with some overdrawing, but nothing too bad) and NetBSD's installer eventually worked. It's just when Fedora drops into curses (at least, it looks like curses...) that the screen turns to mush. Oddly enough, the text install option doesn't seem to do anything. I end up at the same screen no matter what I do.

Actually, if I had a complete set of screenshot of the install process I wouldn't have a problem. The garbage is correctly colored, so I can see where all the windows and buttons and whatnot are, I just can't read the text.

Anyway, I'm taking a run at Mandrake now.

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That's an interesting set-up your ISP has with the proxy configuration.  I wonder if they're doing that because they're incredibly paranoid about security or hackers?

Nah, it's a caching proxy (squid). They're increadibly paranoid about their bills. The security is probably accidental.

Anyway, I can't really complain; in principle I approve of keeping customers on private networks behind fortified gateways. The real problem is protocols that assume that everyone is out in the open.

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Can you upload to your own ftp site when building web pages?

Dunno, haven't needed to use FTP to upload to an external machine since the proxy went up. (Yes, I am the that guy you're heard about, the one who doesn't have a website.)

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My ISP is pretty well wide open for ftp transfers, downloads.......................hmmmmm......kind of makes me glad I'm behind my little D-Link router/firewall.

Heh. I had a little Linksys once, but it never quite worked right. Ended up just buying another Ethernet card and running everything through my desktop. Always meant to set up a dedicated gateway machine, but never got around to it.

This post has been edited by jcl: 28 October 2004 - 04:04 AM

[iccaros]

jcl.. I use vmware for this .. at $189 its well worth the investment.. runs in linux or (winders)..
under I have.
dos 4.5 - 6.0
win 1.1
win 3.1.1
win 98SE
win 2000
win server 2000
win XP
win server 2003
Fedora core 1 & 2
Suse 9.1 Pro
Slackware
Gentoo
Redhat AS3
whitebox linux
Solaris 9
solaris 10
FreeBSD
OPENBSD

and I use it to test live CD's (I build with slackware)

I see it as at $189 its cheeper that a new system.. plus I can logon to my works windows network and get stuff done with out exiting gentoo..
also I can design networks and test them on my laptop.. with 1 gig ram I can run 3 OS as a time (host plus 2 guest)

[jcl]

iccaros, on Oct 28 2004, 07:38 PM, said:

jcl.. I use vmware for this .. at $189 its well worth the investment.. runs in linux or (winders)..

Yeah, that might be easier. I also have a couple spare machines that I could use.